Lister LH150 -- How it works:
The LH150 is a relatively simple, three position
gearbox: Forward, Neutral, Reverse. Power is transmitted
to the gearbox from the engine by a solid shaft,
bolted to the engine flywheel and with a set of gear
teeth cut at the gearbox end. There is no drive plate between
the engine and gearbox. The shaft mates with
a set of internal epicyclic gears which are part of
the gearbox drum and hub assembly. The shaft also carries a drive
gear which operates the gearbox oil
pump. It is important to note that the oil pump is
directional, so a replacement
gearbox must be correct for your engine rotation.
The vast majority of LH150
are set for clockwise rotation engines. Of the
family of engines that used the
LH150, the one exception is the SW series (SW only;
not STW). All SW are
anti-clockwise rotation engines. All the rest
are typically clockwise, but may
be anti-clock. With the gearbox removed it is not a
difficult job to swap over
the oil pump, if required.
It is important to note that when the engine is not
running, the gearbox default
position is forward drive, irrespective of where the
gear lever may be set. This
means that when the engine is started, the propshaft
and propeller will
momentarily turn until oil pressure is built up
within the gearbox.
In neutral with the engine running, the hub
assembly spins but no drive
is transmitted. When forward is selected, a spring
pack on the mainshaft pushes a clutch cone into engagement with the
tapered internal face of the drum. As the
clutch cone is splined to the mainshaft, once it
engages, the motion of the hub / drum assembly is transmitted to the
mainshaft.
To obtain neutral from forward, a thrust bearing
pulls back on the clutch cone, disengaging it from the drum.
Reverse is achieved by the action of a brake band
gripping the outer face of the hub/drum assembly. With the drum
unable to turn, the epicyclic gear train comes into play,
transmitting drive in the reverse direction via a gear on the
forward end of the mainshaft.
Neutral and reverse positions are achieved through
hydraulic pressure acting
on dedicated pistons and levers; forward is not
dependent on hydraulic pressure
The reverse brake band has a natural springiness to
the disengaged
position, plus an additional retraction spring.
In either the direct drive version or the reduction
box version, a thrust bearing is fitted immediately behind the
output flange capable of taking all forward or reverse thrust.
What are the common problems ?
We see quite a lot of these
boxes and by some margin the most common issues are loss of
reverse; loss of forward; inability to obtain neutral,
often accompanied
by engine stalling if reverse
is selected.
Loss of forward.
Original cones had rivetted linings and in older boxes these
linings may start to break up simply due to age, or be worn beyond
serviceable limits through use.
Loss of neutral / engine
stalling. This is closely related to the issue above, of
linings breaking up. If a piece of broken lining wedges between
the clutch cone and the drum even when neutral is selected,
forward drive may continue to be transmitted. If reverse is then
selected the epicyclic gear train is unable
to function correctly and the box simply locks up, stalling the
engine.
Loss of reverse. Almost
always due to a worn out friction lining on the reverse brake
band.
On the one hand, these are
significant faults which render the gearbox unusable, but do bear
in mind that very often the box will have had little or no
attention for very many years and is likely to have outlived
almost any comparable age unit. All the above are fixable, but all
require a strip down. Once repaired, if done properly, the
box will be good for many years further service.
General wear is the next most
prevalent issue, including worn bearings, bushes, gears and
sometimes the hub/ drum itself. The good news is unless left to an
extreme condition, none of these things will rob you of drive. A
useful and simple test is to grasp the output flange (with
whatever it is coupled to unbolted) and check for any lateral
movement or evident rotational noise or roughness when turning by
hand in neutral. Readily perceptible lateral movement, noise and
roughness almost inevitably indicate a box
in need of some renovation.
Water ! As these boxes
often live in environments where water accumulates, it is not
unknown for them to become submerged. In the event you find
evidence of water in the gearbox (milky, emulsified oil --
or just water), it is important to drain the box as soon as
possible and flush it with clean oil until all traces of water are
removed.
Apart from the obvious negative effect of water and rust on all
the machined moving surfaces, the real danger is that as the box
defaults to the forward position, the clutch cone may rust
to the drum. This can be a sufficiently strong bond that it is
impossible to free it using the gear selection, necessitating a
complete strip down of the box. Additionally, all the moving
hydraulic parts
are susceptible to rust
damage. Enough cumulative damage will scrap the box.
Things to do and not to do:
DO -- Make sure the gearbox and reduction box
contain the appropriate amount of clean oil. SAE80 or SAE90
Gear oil is fine in both boxes. If you have the original brass plate
it may say use engine oil in the reversing box; this was later
changed to the specification above. Each box has its own dipstick.
Find it and use it ! If you have fully drained the gearbox, refill
to the dipstick mark, run the
engine for a minute or two, turn off and then
re-check the level after a few
minutes.
Make sure the engine installation is such that the gearbox output
flange and whatever is connected to it are perfectly aligned. The
flanges should be perfectly flat to each other and the bolts go
through their holes, by hand, fully. Misalignment here will cause
premature wear to the gearbox and likely the stern gear.
Flexible propshaft couplers are no substitute for basic
correct alignment, unless they are a properly engineered double
jointed assembly, using a separate thrust plate.
If the engine appears to be labouring and / or black smoking. With
the engine turned off and the gearbox set in neutral, check that the
propshaft rotates freely. If not, check for a fouled
propeller. Make sure no one can start the engine or engage a
gear while you are doing this.
If the boat is not moved too often, when you do go
to it, start the engine and run
the gearbox through its neutral and reverse
positions. This will minimise the
chance of the forward cone sticking to the drum.
DON'T -- Try and free a fouled
propeller by constantly alternating between forward and
reverse. If a good blast in reverse does not clear the prop, best to
physically remove whatever is causing the problem. The
reverse band has only a thin lining and will not stand over much
abuse
Make any adjustments to the gearbox selector piston
settings unless there is a good reason. Any signs of slippage in
forward or reverse should be investigated
quickly, but otherwise ---- if it's not broken, don't fix it.
Use any additives in the reversing gearbox. They may glaze the
linings, causing permanent loss of drive.
Attempt to remove / refit the gearbox unless you are
confident in being able
to keep it straight and square relative to the
engine. Failure to do this may
result in terminal damage to the oil pump drive
shaft, which although small
is eye - wateringly expensive ! An LH150 with
reduction box is easily around
50kg and an awkward lump to manhandle.
Throw away your old Lister gearbox if you are swapping it out for
something different. Give us a call.
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Parts Availability.
With the exception of the bearings and seals, every other part
of the gearbox is a Lister specific item and the majority have not
been supported for some time. We keep stock of service exchange
clutch cones and brake bands plus bearings, bushes, seals and
gaskets. We also stock core unit gearboxes and
reduction boxes for full reconditioning.
If you are shopping around for bearings, you need to be aware there
is a dramatic difference in quality between those from a reputable
manufacturer and those (typically) of Chinese origin. Some of
the bearings are significantly expensive, but given the work
involved in a rebuild and the effort of
removal and refitting it is an area where it is absolutely not worth
economising. As a rule of thumb, if the bearings aren't made
in Europe, Japan or
North America, you probably don't want them.
Top Tip !
We all like a bargain and if your box is playing up you may be
inclined to find a usable second hand unit. Just remember that
the youngest of these boxes is likely to be pushing 40 years
old, so you do need to be sure before buying that your prospective
purchase actually works. If it is being sold as rebuilt or having
had attention, don't be afraid to ask to see the receipt as evidence
of what has been done.
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